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Split the article?
This page is getting awefully bloated with background and history. I think it may be wise to split off much of the storyline stuff either onto its own page or to multiple story pages for each of the games. That way, we can focus on Dante, things like personality and relationships, and not the events in the games/media. --Anobi 03:39, September 28, 2011 (UTC)
Whats the connection between Dante and Dante Alligheri?
Whats the reference to Dante Alligheri' s Divine comedy?
Well fist off there is his name "Dante" taken from him, then there is the color red. Dante Alighieri was often depicted wearing red in paintings of him. In the Divine Comedy, Dante was lead by the famous poet Virgil through the different levels of Hell to get to his personal salvation, Beatrice, and get to Heaven or Paradise. Dante (the game one) obviously has a brother named Vergil (who wears blue much like Virgil in paintings) who fight off demons of Hell, and Trish is similar to Beatrice (Trish being a nickname for Beatrice). I beleive I managed to hit all the points of reference, I might be missing some though. --CLARKMASTER! 18:28, January 29, 2012 (UTC)
What Order?
What order does the Devil May Cry Series take place? I just saw the Dante page and it went Devil May Cry3, and Devil May Cry, Then Devil May Cry 4, and finally Devil May Cry 2, is the order?William J. Hawkins 20:58, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
- Yup, that's the order. It's wonky, but that's it :p 184.59.216.168 21:26, March 10, 2012 (UTC)
Exact Heights
I've noticed that some user(s) (I haven't been keeping track,) have been adding exact height descriptions to the characters, not just the D-man, here. It's a great thing to have if they are true, but I don't remember reading anything about exact heights. Can we dig up some sources on these, and place them in reference tags? --Anobi (talk) 18:52, November 21, 2012 (UTC)
I've actually been wondering about this. Not sure how much this helps, but in MVC3, Dante is slightly shorter then Deadpool. Who in the comics is officially listed as 6'2". Just play the game, go into training mode, have Dante and Deadpool walk right up to eachother, and you'll notice even when Deadpool's feet are on the ground he's a tad taller then Dante. So I'd put Dante at 6'-6'1", if anyone else has anything to add to that, feel free
- That doesn't mean anything. All the other characters sizes seemed right. It didn't look like Dante was any taller or shorter then he is in the actual games.
- they probably use this chart http://postfiles6.naver.net/data32/2008/3/10/37/%C5%A9%B1%E2%BA%AF%C8%AF1_dmc4wp6full_phs92450.jpg?type=w2 ~~LegionZero~~ 1:41, March 7, 2013
- Isn't Devil May Cry 4 actually the last game in the story's chronology and not DMC2? Source is this http://www.g4tv.com/videos/19837/hands-on-devil-may-cry-4/#video-26467. Even the DMC4 character designer said he wanted Dante to look older than in previous games and make a bigger contrast with Nero.
- It is now, DMC2 was the last game to take place, but they've retconned it to be set before DMC4 now. Anyway, I did find this https://66.media.tumblr.com/ad650a1faf0df12890233da4bcb1108f/tumblr_inline_p5bemy0Vjv1t43zu1_1280.jpg Seems to be from the anime, it shows Dante is about 190 cm (roughly 6'3") maybe it should be mentioned? AgentRedgrave (talk) 21:47, February 17, 2019 (UTC)
questions
hay um i was wondering what's dante's last name?
Luesendie.mccomis (talk) 11:19, August 16, 2013 (UTC)
- Dante and Vergil's last name has never been stated, thus; there is no correct last name for them. Fans tend to give them the surname "Sparda" out of respect for their father. Also, in DMC1, Mundus says, "Again, I must face a Sparda." While not conclusive (or even very convincing) evidence, this does give some justification for calling him "Dante Sparda." After all; Mundus could simply be referring to Dante as the "Son of Sparda" rather than by Dante's actual surname. Anyway; sorry I can't be more help! -- Anobi (talk) 21:46, August 17, 2013 (UTC)
- ==About killing humans...==
It was never was said Dante refused to kill humans. If it was said then it's a lie. Dante, in DMC1 novel, killings humans , not because they were good or evil, but because they were his rivals.In fact, he is a bad exorcist, since it seems everytime someone is possessed( willingly or not), that person ends killed by Dante.
He doesn't care more about humans than killing demons.
Age?
Is Dante's age ever mentioned in any media?
Personality Change and age?
Why is Dante so Darker in Appearance and Personality in Devil May Cry 2? Did something Tragic Happen some time after Devil May Cry 4?(SPARDA) in the begining of the series, have everyone noticed that Dante seems to resent his father, when he and virgil fought for the first time and mentioned their father, Dante boldly stated he had no father. i suppose Dante was intially ashamed of his demon heiratage, because of his mother's death, but virgil intially embraced his demon heirtage and wanted more power because he felt gulity for failing to protect their mother. what do you guys and gals think and also how old is Dante in devil may cry 2? (SPAR) 3:26PM, FEBURARY, 10, 2014
Very very Dante. AH HA!!! XDDDDD Liam Bain 19:58, April 25, 2014 (UTC)
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Rank?
Should we give Dante the rank of God since he has defeated 3 of them. One of them being stronger than the other 2 combined?? LegionZero (talk) 12:35, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- Who was the third demon god stronger than the other 2 combined?
And no, we shouldnt. While he is vastly superior... to the demon gods he has faced... that's not how it works. We're simply giving characters the titles already given to them in game/official sources. Not a single official canon source refers to Dante as a God, so we shouldnt either. Meshifuari Arimota (talk) 12:49, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
No. Godhood in the DMC universe doesn't work that way. Evil Tim (talk) 12:53, April 11, 2019 (UT C)
- Dante defeated Urizen who one shot- Dante who basically stomped Argosax and then stomped Dante+DS Sparda. And yes, godhood does work that way. From everything we have seen in the series "God"is used to describe how powerful said character is. Sparda, Argosax, and Mundus were described as Gods. Urizen 3's profile said that in order to defeat him one would need the power of God. LegionZero (talk) 18:54, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- No, becoming a god requires you to either join with a giant statue, eat the fruit of the Qliphoth or do whatever the hell Arius was trying to do. Just being powerful doesn't cut it. Evil Tim (talk) 19:33, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
Weren't you the one that wanted to give "the most accurate" and official descriptions? What happened?
Let's do this. Find me one official source that refers to Dante as a God.. Not a being with godlike powers, then I will gladly accept your idea. As of right now.. no. Meshifuari Arimota (talk) 19:10, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- Being with god-like power and Gods are the same thing in DMC. Its purely a power thing. I only ask this now because Urizen was a god, then ate the fruit and became even stronger, then became Vergil and became even stronger, and Dante matches him in strength. This is why i didnt want to consider "God" a rank or status. LegionZero (talk) 19:20, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- Dante is just a half-mortal who's really good at his job. Evil Tim (talk) 19:28, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- Being with god-like power and Gods are the same thing in DMC. Its purely a power thing. I only ask this now because Urizen was a god, then ate the fruit and became even stronger, then became Vergil and became even stronger, and Dante matches him in strength. This is why i didnt want to consider "God" a rank or status. LegionZero (talk) 19:20, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- If by "giving him a rank" you mean "fill out his Titles field in the infobox", then I will confirm, this is not how it works. We only add direct quotes, which are almost always capitalized, found directly in the official material, like library files ("Devil Hunter" for a bunch of characters), enemy cards (e.g. Vergil's "Alpha and Omega"), and other similarly official material. I agree that Dante is functionally a god by now, but until Dante gets a character card directly calling him as such, adios. My signature is NOT short! 20:01, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- We have a field for rank that is seperate from title that has to do with hierarchy. We have to recognize(though i find it questionable) God as a position in the demon hierachy. This[1] is what we settled on the meaning of demon gods in the DMCverse. LegionZero (talk) 20:14, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- "Although some demons are powerful enough to be considered god-like or even mistaken for an actual god such as the likes of Sparda and the Order of the Sword[1], these kinds of demons are explicitly stated to be gods
- We have a field for rank that is seperate from title that has to do with hierarchy. We have to recognize(though i find it questionable) God as a position in the demon hierachy. This[1] is what we settled on the meaning of demon gods in the DMCverse. LegionZero (talk) 20:14, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
Dante should not be considered as a god Meshifuari Arimota (talk) 20:20, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- I just clicked the link. What the hell is this. Classic series never used the term Cambion, and I can't recall off the top of my head if reboot did either (but I am rusty on reboot lore). In addition, blood mixes are relevant, but that goes into Species category, not some made up "rank".
- More relevantly, "God" is more of a poetic term to refer to
demonsbeings who are so strong they are a cut about the rest. This isn't like military ranks where you can clearly denote who is an enlisted and who is a general, this is the same as calling a great man "a god among men". My signature is NOT short! 20:31, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the edit on the Demons article, Meshifuari Arimota. I didn't even have time to check that it was recent before you undid it, you work quick heh. My signature is NOT short! 20:38, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- No problem. I do have problem with ranking characters as a "gods" due to their power as Legion suggested. I would prefer to give some demon a "god rank" when he was stated to be one. Like Argosax... or Mundus.
If we start giving it to the demons based on their powers then we will have to give it to: Dante, Vergil, Nero, Abigail (since he was as strong as Mundus), Urizen and a lot of different characters... Meshifuari Arimota (talk) 20:50, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- Urizen is stated to be a god. Nero hasnt defeated God tier characters who were at full power. God isn't a species either. Mundus and Urizen werent born that powerful nor did their immense level of power come from being a demon species called "God." Which calls into question the validity of God as any official termonology to begin with. LegionZero (talk) 21:17, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
- And suddenly you are making sense Legion. Decide whose side you are on already! :P
- But yeah, basically my line of thought. "God" is a poetic term, nothing more. Urizen is not even directly referred to as a god, Nico only says that to take on that down you'd need "the power of a god" - which is clearly just a metaphor for saying "freakin' huge amount of power".
- Also, ranks make no sense, and, if that is presently a field in the infobox, can be and should be removed, since there is little canon material to work with there. My signature is NOT short! 21:25, April 11, 2019 (UTC)
Powers and Abilities section
I know Wikia pushes this kind of section on wikis, but I have to profess it's the most inelegant, inorganic way to cover this kind of information that I've seen. It's based on how Marvel, specifically, used to discretize abilities, as well as stuff like D&D, but it's very incompatible in most other fictions and encourages a lot of redundancy and fluff. It also encourages versusbattling mindset, constantly saying "strong enough to, fast enough to", which is...a plague on fiction and fandom. It results in huge, overwrought sections that aren't true to the nature of how the original media frames the details.
- For example, most of Dante's powers section could be summarized as something like "His half-demon heritage grants Dante superhuman physiology that often defies imagination, as well as gifting him with accelerated healing and the ability to channel his demonic energies through his body and weapons." with maybe a few refs and an example or two. You could shrink this down a lot without losing anything important to the reader.
- His "telekinetic abilities" was simply the shockwave from his demonic aura flowing out of him, he wasn't really "holding" it there in the same way the Devil Bringer does. It's more like if you were keeping a leaf in the air by blowing on it.
- I'm pretty sure I remember DMC5 talking about how his instinctual proficiency with weapons and armor is due to his demonic side kind of "interfacing" with and understanding the weapons. I might be wrong about this, but I believe we did get an explanation somewhere about why he's always so immediately skilled in any weapon he picks up.
- As an example of how FANDOM's in-house powers and abilities style is messy, there's no real reason for "swordsmanship" or "marksmanship" to be separate from "weapon proficiency" in the first place. It's there because FANDOM treats it as a checklist to select from, not the DMC universe itself. "Musical Aptitude" also seems to, in-universe, be an example of him synchronizing with the weapon, not something innate to him.
- As another example, "Keen Intellect" is a really vague way to describe that. How keen is it? How do you differentiate between keen and just smart? How do we know that the examples given really require being so smart? It's not really quantifiable, which is why trying to shove it in a "stat ranking" box doesn't work well. It would be more organic to just mention that he has a reputation for shrewdness, cited to that Shadow thing from the novel.
- Also, some of the refs are broken.
The Devil Trigger section is already perfect. If the wiki responsibly pares down the "Powers" and "Abilities" tab into maybe a paragraph each, focusing more on how the Devil May Cry media frames these skills than how FANDOM's style does (a paragraph talking about how his hybrid nature empowers his body, a paragraph talking about how it makes him a weapon master, and a paragraph about devil trigger), you could have a much more readable, digestible section that wouldn't need tabs in the first place.
I would also recommend having this kind of review of presentation on any other articles with this kind of section.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 21:50, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
- While I agree there is some fluff and it could use some revision, I disagree with it's format being being inorganic or inelegant. I find it cumbersome to have to read/skim a bunch of paragraphs to get a better understanding of how powerful/skilled Dante is in specific areas. Naruto wiki does this and I find it to be rather annoying. I still don't see how it doesn't "frame the details" when it is literally info that was there, just catagorized for quicker reader identification and has some more detail.
- Saying it encourages "versusbattling" is kinda silly considering how almost no one is having these kinds of debates/discussions on the wiki. And unlike VS Battle Wiki, we don't make assumptions about powers/abilities, and more importantly, dont quanitfy feats.
- I don't recall DMC5 saying anything about interfacing but BtN mentioned Sparda trained the twins so their weapons expertise seems to come from actual skill. backed up by Deadly Fortune saying Dante was significantly less skilled with Yamato than Vergil. Also Dante has musical equipment in the shop in 3 so he probably does know how to play music and sing.
- LegionZero (talk) 01:08, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
- Reiterating that the section still has an issue with puffery, and should really be rewritten to be more organic. I also have to reject your claim that it's not inorganic -- splitting up each ability into discretized bullets is definitively inorganic (especially stuff like splitting weapons into swords, guns, and instruments), that's just what the phrase means.
- I also want to clarify what I mean -- you're talking about how we "don't quantify feats" while simultaneously saying you want to understand how skilled Dante is "in specific areas". That's doing the same fundamental thing, and it's also just not how the setting itself frames things. DMC is not like DnD where Dante would have ranks in Skill:Guitar Playing or Skill:Ranged Weapon Mastery.(ಠ_ೃ) Bully! 06:33, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- When I say quantify I mean we aren't labeling/categorizing feats for the purpose of a cross-fiction aggregate powerscaling system (i.e. Mundus being catagorized as "High Universal" because he casually created a universe.) The feats are listed to explain/substantiate the claim instead of a vague and nebulous "trust me he does curaaazy things." I do agree that we perhaps shouldn't label things ranks, but that is a pitfall that isn't unique to the current format. As for format, I still think the current way to the quickest and easiest way for readers to find and identify information. Simply not being in paragraphs doesn't make it inorganic. I would even argue that specifically being in paragraph format (especially in the way you suggested) is incredibly inefficient. LegionZero (talk) 02:25, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Fear Unlimited Flash Game Tribute Discussion
Has anyone ever played "Fear Unlimited (2005)" on NewGrounds.com back then, there's one Character called Encon and he's the polar opposite to Dante. GamerHistory1001 (talk), 6 may 2024 (UTC)
Age in 3
So everyone says Dante is 19 in 3, but where is that stated? I looked around but don't actually know.
- Eva died when he was 8. Arkham references that event as happening 10 years prior in the DMC3 manga. DMC3 takes place 1 year after the manga.
- please remember to sign your posts with 4 of these: ~
- LegionZero (talk) 04:34, 28 February 2026 (UTC)
Sorry. Also, do you remember where it's stated the twins were 8 when Eva was killed? ~ ~ ~ ~
- TheWhicherMan (talk) 11:50, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
- Kamiya answered it on twitter. He said Dante was about the same age as Space Pirate Cobra in DMC1. I believe Cobra is 28ish in that series. Since Eva died 20 years before DMC1, the twins would have been 8. LegionZero (talk) 07:12, 28 February 2026 (UTC)